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<h1>Engineering Circle Meeting 2024-12-16 </h1>
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<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
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- [Attendees](#attendees)
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- [Main Content](#main-content)
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- [TF 4.0](#tf-40)
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- [Notes on Release Nodes Availability](#notes-on-release-nodes-availability)
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- [Workload Architecture for HA storage and app](#workload-architecture-for-ha-storage-and-app)
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- [Interactions with Community](#interactions-with-community)
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- [TG Admin](#tg-admin)
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- [GEP](#gep)
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- [Minting and GEP](#minting-and-gep)
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- [Grid Release Updates](#grid-release-updates)
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- [Stellar DEX on the phone](#stellar-dex-on-the-phone)
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- [Availability](#availability)
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- [TODO](#todo)
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## Attendees
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- Lee
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- Ahmed
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- Sabrina
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- Mik
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- Kristof
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- Scott
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## Main Content
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- Zealy
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- OK for community to do it themselves
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- TF not implicate, we let them do it and help if needed
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- Mik will help GEN (the implementor) if needed
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- If it works well, we can have a GEP later and decide that TF treasury give some TFT to help
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- Only if it works well and community accepts the GEP
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- 3.15
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- qsfs
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- scott working on it
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- 3.15 patch
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- local network
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- Jan and devs working on it
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- 3.16
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- organize it with eng circle next meeting
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- Compensation july
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- Done
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## TF 4.0
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- main project
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- https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/-/projects/62
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- dont do too much repos
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- use tfgrid
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- instead of tfv4 now
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- farming
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- write how we do the hosting
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- with maxime
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- another bootstrap server
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- another ISO
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- couple of weeks we can have it
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## Notes on Release Nodes Availability
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* Should come from the team
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* Make forum posts explaining situation
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* https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N2oSXyFDsth113Wu_8O5I7-OUt6b3T22E8AX2m8bbjs/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.nd9regv84uto
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* TODO
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* write basic post
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* check with eng circle
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* check with concerned farm
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* Review the forum post then share on forum
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## Workload Architecture for HA storage and app
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- Devs
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- See main story:
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- https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_engineering/issues/148
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- Ops
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- kubernetes, nomad, glusterfs
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- thabet will open tickets
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## Interactions with Community
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- e.g.
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- send code of conducts
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- ask people to be respectful
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- if someone doesn't follow this
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- we can ban them and explain it
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- but we need to always be kind
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- note
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- we don't ban people if they share their criticism just if they go against code of conduts and didn't listen to warnings
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### TG Admin
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- check with TG if we can put ourselves as admin anonymous so we can write as "ADMIN"
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## GEP
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- Minting issues in November
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- TODO
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- do 10 days of voting
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- send GEP in 1-2 days
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- specific case
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- write draft on google docs
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- when accepted we publish on forum
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- mint in January
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- GEP content
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- we know last month version upgrade of the grid didn't go as expected, cause many people not to meet uptime requireemtsn, as there were another issue
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- this is what the issue was
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- ...
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- we have a workaround for it now
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- we do realize many people did not get all tockens
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- we propose to have a gep to remint only those 2 days
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## Minting and GEP
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- Notes
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- always require updates in minting code
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- always require a GEP
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- since we don't know in advanced, we can't know in advanced, and can't code it in advance
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- we dont know if update will lead to update
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- every minting changes must be done through a GEP
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## Grid Release Updates
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- Update stuff on Hetnzer
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- Flist server
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- people can run their own hubs
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- define which users can login
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- convert their images
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- admin interface part for zos over mycelium
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- Jan said bad use of mycelium
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- don't have any more notes on this
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- not good to have admin define the packets and rules, this will not work
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- aside from that
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- we are developing couple of endpoints
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- owners of node can exclude
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- check how many workloads exist
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- see DNS files
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- right now
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- single diagnosis command
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- to exclude stuff, it would be helpful
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- KYC on farmers
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- should we have kyc or email+phone verification?
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- if authorities need to contact the farmer
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- if we have email but it's a fake email, or email they don't use, etc. a burner phone
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- idea:
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- not allow for people to create farm with dashboard, only the tfconnect
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- if kyc not needed
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- create farm with TFConnect, email verification is needed
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- if we don't need KYC for farmers
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- can farmers deploy on their own node without KYC
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- it is reasonable
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- kyc needed
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- on dashboard or tfconnect app, need kyc to create farm
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## Stellar DEX on the phone
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- basic use
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- as before, no need xlm
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- advanced use
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- using swap, trading, etc.
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- will consume XLM
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- disclaimer: if use advanced, need to manage XLM
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- UX
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- shortcut to market
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- buy TFT, buy USDC, buy XLM
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- from there, facing conditions of having XLM
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- to buy TFT you need some XLM
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- first buy XLM first, then swap to TFT and keep some in the wallet
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## Availability
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- Thabet is off 24-12-18 to 24-12-29
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## TODO
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- GEP for minting November
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- revise and update as needed, then share on forum
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- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MS1O0QV4GgS6mKnxQ8edU40agaK7pcWKxJKB5WoIKQc/edit?tab=t.0
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- check if can send tft with 3bot
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- if not create issue on tfconnect to enable this
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- Post series (3) on nodes HA
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