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+<h1>Developers Meeting: 24-08-12</h1>
+
+<h2>Table of Contents</h2>
+
+- [Introduction](#introduction)
+- [Attendees](#attendees)
+- [Main Content](#main-content)
+  - [INCA Project](#inca-project)
+  - [Cloud and Hero](#cloud-and-hero)
+  - [Manual Updates: Pulumi and Terraform](#manual-updates-pulumi-and-terraform)
+  - [Responsibility and Stories](#responsibility-and-stories)
+  - [Threefold.io Caddy Issue](#threefoldio-caddy-issue)
+  - [Community Meeting](#community-meeting)
+- [To discuss next meeting](#to-discuss-next-meeting)
+  - [Some Related Links](#some-related-links)
+
+---
+
+## Introduction
+
+We provide information on developers meeting.
+
+## Attendees
+
+- Ahmed
+- Kristof
+- Scott
+- Mik
+
+## Main Content
+
+### INCA Project
+
+- inca project
+  - inspiration from hashgraph website
+  - clear agreement between participants
+  - tokenomics
+    - Kristof finished a tokenomics version
+    - 75% TFT to community
+    - 25% to team, investors
+  - conversion
+    - all vesting
+      - at first gets 60% of INCA
+      - rest is unlock over time
+    - farmers over 3 years
+    - ecosystem over 4 years
+    - investors
+      - 1 quarter later
+    - conversion: 1 TFT --> 1 INCA
+    - first 1 billion is TFT
+    - 3 next billions are INCA
+  - liquidity pool
+    - INCA, TFT, fiat currencies
+      - how we convert in-between
+    - e.g. someone pays capacity 
+      - can pay in USD
+        - buy from the liquidity pool
+    - todo with liquidity pool
+      - define how liquidity pool
+        - accelerated liquidity pool
+      - define how farmers will be paid in INCA
+        - leave this to the COOP
+  - utilization
+    - 80% of utilization goes to farmers
+    - 20% goes to cooperative
+      - or 10% coop, 10% validator
+    - rewards locked
+      - coop decides how they want to use them
+      - e.g. can say
+        - rewards coming available
+          - can use it for emerging country
+          - can use for specific use case
+          - use to drive demand
+
+### Cloud and Hero
+
+- cloud threefold
+  - focus on pulumi
+    - create and delete steps
+- hero
+  - bring first version of hero live
+  - do for specific use cases
+    - alternative to calendly
+
+### Manual Updates: Pulumi and Terraform
+
+- Manual updates overview
+  - pulumi
+    - section in manual cleaner than terraform
+    - can use code
+    - TF strong with infrastructure as code
+      - UI, not really our strenght
+    - todo: explain more for people who don't know about it
+  - python and pulumi
+    - once we have it we add it to the manual
+- manual mycelium
+  - updates from planetary to mycelium
+    - OK for dev branch for now (manual.dev.grid.tf)
+- manual python with pulumi
+  - needs some configurations to be updated
+    - Thabet will work on this and we can improve the manual when we get more python/pulumi info+content
+  - more examples
+    - threefoldtech/pulumi-threefold
+      - link to examples
+    - lead people to Python
+      - Ahmed is working on this
+  - explain better what the properties are
+    - e.g. sizes
+    - link to Pulumi docs
+  - move pulumi above terraform
+- terraform
+  - terraform_full_vm
+    - explain HRU, HDD
+    - variable size, what is size
+  - emphasis on example
+  - add examples
+
+### Responsibility and Stories
+
+- responsibility of a story needs to be to someone who will own it
+  - e.g. call the assigner evey day and see if it's being worked on
+  - coordinator needs to find someone to take ownership
+  - members
+    - owner of a story
+    - assigning
+  - in a story
+    - who owns it
+      - takes responsibility that it gets done
+    - person who needs to execute
+      - if someone not doing the work, escalate to higher level, e.g. Kristof
+
+### Threefold.io Caddy Issue
+
+- threefold.io caddy issue
+  - it has been fixed
+
+### Community Meeting
+
+- community meeting
+  - more details on cyber security
+    - no longer going to work
+    - that is what we're going to do
+  - Scott can discuss it but needs more info
+    - what types of workloads won't work anymore
+    - is it for all nodes or some nodes
+    - could be good if farmers could opt-in or opt-out
+- uniqueness identification
+  -  civic.com, shufti pro
+
+## To discuss next meeting
+
+- discuss if we change farming rewards for HDD-only node
+- violation of minting for some nodes
+  - Scott checks the differences
+  - discuss with Lee and Jan
+- 3.15
+  - discuss with the team the specs
+- define all products
+  - discuss and get feedback from other members
+- gep update
+  - discuss how we decide the 80% consensus
+- protection against cyber treats
+  - priority for next meeting
+  - discuss how we proceed
+- hack/ddos attack of threefold.io
+
+### Some Related Links
+
+- HDD-only node
+  - farming rewards?
+- Announcement of grid 3.15
+  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/204
+- Defining products
+  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/219
+- TF protection against cyber treats
+  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/225
+- Recent GEP
+  - https://git.ourworld.tf/tfgrid/circle_promotion/issues/226
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